tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913319789564397699.post4177612240330545882..comments2024-03-19T08:24:33.442-05:00Comments on The Other Side blog: Elizabeth BathoryTimothy S. Brannanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02923526503305233715noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913319789564397699.post-11552178650563442012013-08-07T06:30:17.332-05:002013-08-07T06:30:17.332-05:00According to history, Elizabeth Báthory was probab...According to history, Elizabeth Báthory was probably the most prolific female serial killer in history. Today (August 7), its her 453rd birthday and the cruelty of her evil deeds is still remembered today. Nevertheless, one should be careful to connect her to the vampire myth, because this will make her an idolized icon and potential role model...what for god's sake should be prevented...There's more to read about Báthory in our daily history of science, technology, end arts blog: http://yovisto.blogspot.de/2012/08/the-legend-of-elizabeth-bathory-blood.html<br />Best,<br /> HaraldBiblionomiconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04536349145605630326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913319789564397699.post-89346864948185889892013-01-21T20:30:30.554-06:002013-01-21T20:30:30.554-06:00Stay alive :)Stay alive :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17880707714121352687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913319789564397699.post-8316459313093424622011-06-19T03:05:41.763-05:002011-06-19T03:05:41.763-05:00Well Belucci was a Bride of Dracula after all (199...Well Belucci was a Bride of Dracula after all (1992). So understandably a fitting model.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913319789564397699.post-40257608860808409062011-05-19T06:46:43.179-05:002011-05-19T06:46:43.179-05:00Bathory was my second season Bug Bad in our Buffy ...Bathory was my second season Bug Bad in our Buffy series. Good stuff!<br /><br />And Monica Bellucci shows up as the model for many characters in my games.... *sigh*Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17635116929490398699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913319789564397699.post-62963538679475379132011-05-17T12:23:27.212-05:002011-05-17T12:23:27.212-05:00Jason, Im not sure how you can be a legitimate Bat...Jason, Im not sure how you can be a legitimate Bathory historian and still believe all the false myths about her. You asked what proof their is that Erzsebet didn't bathe in blood. first, if you knew anything about blood, you would realize, blood clots extremely fast, talk to any dr. or nurse. it would clot within minutes. 2nd, in the last 10 years, all her transcripts from the "trial" are now available. Kim Craft wrote a book exposing all these myths are simple garbage. are you also aware of the fact that the only people ever caught and admitting to doing any killings were her 4 servants, not the countess. on the night they raided her castle in 1610, the countess wasn't even there. only her servants were there. the more you dig into it, the more you realize what the countess said all along, was that it was a political conspiracy. please, do some real research and stop perpetuating the myths of this great, extremely intelligent and passionatle woman.roguevampirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08147366049586573876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913319789564397699.post-9239886531159219172010-12-09T14:28:22.931-06:002010-12-09T14:28:22.931-06:00Sorry, the king owing her husband money. I mis-typ...Sorry, the king owing her husband money. I mis-typed.The Grey Elfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14696474020129732936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913319789564397699.post-70794941205165869112010-12-09T14:26:26.293-06:002010-12-09T14:26:26.293-06:00And your evidence for these bold statements? I ho...And your evidence for these bold statements? I hope it's not wikipedia. I've been a Bathory scholar for 24 years and have NEVER heard a WHISPER of this conspiracy theory about her uncle owing the king money. That's laughable.<br /><br />Indeed, it's even MORE likely that she was a psychotic serial killer who bathed in blood, than it is that she was involved in witchcraft. There's never been a substantiated claim of ANY actual witchcraft being uncovered in the middle ages. That was a smokescreen cooked up by the Church of Rome to have its detractors hung or otherwise executed.The Grey Elfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14696474020129732936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913319789564397699.post-48442403053859671502010-12-09T13:25:45.042-06:002010-12-09T13:25:45.042-06:00No, Jim is right. The tale of Elizabeth bathing is...No, Jim is right. The tale of Elizabeth bathing is blood is complete crap, it was created about two hundred years after her death. <br /><br />She was abusive towards her servants, but it's hard to ascertain just how much, it's also possible that she was involved in witch craft, but again impossible to tell if she actually.<br /><br />King Matthias owed her dead husband some money and when she tried to reclaim it, he decided have her tried based on rumors. She was never actually tried because her son, (and son-in-laws) knew it would ruin the family name, plus loss of inheritance. So they agreed to forgive the debt, if he wouldn't actually allow her to be tried.Lexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913319789564397699.post-80581105405645211762010-09-17T19:07:35.106-05:002010-09-17T19:07:35.106-05:00Jason
I agree and it is nice to finally see that ...Jason<br /><br />I agree and it is nice to finally see that someone else has the facts lined up. I am a huge Bathory fan myself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913319789564397699.post-88790483887446861422010-07-06T13:45:02.935-05:002010-07-06T13:45:02.935-05:00Jim...
You are either a descendant of the Bathory...Jim...<br /><br />You are either a descendant of the Bathorys, a wannabe descendant, or a revisionist historian. Erszebet Bathory did bathe in blood--it's generally accepted save by people who somehow think this fact "taints the Bathory name" and engage in a crusade to "prove" otherwise. It is, however, generally accepted by legitimate scholars that she bathed in blood. There were in fact torture devices in her chambers that consisted of a bathtub in a cage which had spikes on top, upon which bodies would be hurled allowing her to shower in the blood. There were also devices similar to iron maidens mounted above thrones, in which she would sit while her victims were bled to death above her. <br /><br />As for the arrest and subsequent trials, there are very few records relating to the proceedings--many were lost in a fire. As for Erszebet herself, she was never tried. They walled her up in her castle as an alternative to trying her, because a trial would bring shame to the Nadasdy and Bathory families.The Grey Elfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14696474020129732936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913319789564397699.post-6221220632681293652010-07-06T13:30:35.320-05:002010-07-06T13:30:35.320-05:00Well yes, and she wasn't a vampire either.
Th...Well yes, and she wasn't a vampire either.<br /><br />That is the constant struggle when making historical persons into game personalities. That struggle with being true to history (as it was recorded, and that can be in error) and being true to the vision of the game.<br /><br />In the end I choose to depict her as such for the game needs.Timothy S. Brannanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02923526503305233715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913319789564397699.post-84761253352438624862010-07-03T13:17:27.683-05:002010-07-03T13:17:27.683-05:00there are many inaccuracies I have found. First, s...there are many inaccuracies I have found. First, she never went to live with her aunt. Erzsebet left home at about age 11, to go live with her future mother in law. AS far as her killing 650 or however many girls. During the trial, a young servant girl, said, she saw the countess write in a register, the names of the girls that she had killed. But to this day, that register has never been found. that would go in direct contradiction to the testimony of the 4 others involved in the killings. there was 3 older woman and one teenage boy. they all had the count no higher than 60-80 girls killed. The biggest myth of all, is the bathing in blood. that simply never happened.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16343513368907446039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913319789564397699.post-68392803017113583382009-08-07T12:27:13.937-05:002009-08-07T12:27:13.937-05:00Moral of the story, don't mess with Hungarians...Moral of the story, don't mess with Hungarians! :) (I'm of Hungarian descent. I just found out Melan (he of various forums) is a Hungarian resident too. Nice article! Thank you.Michael S/Chgowizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052820400496340137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913319789564397699.post-29521496093193382792009-08-07T09:25:58.032-05:002009-08-07T09:25:58.032-05:00Monday. I think.
Today will be Unisystem I am su...Monday. I think.<br /><br />Today will be Unisystem I am sure.<br /><br />TimTimothy S. Brannanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02923526503305233715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913319789564397699.post-15927962136339651652009-08-07T08:25:58.129-05:002009-08-07T08:25:58.129-05:00We haven't covered her yet but she's in th...We haven't covered her yet but she's in the notes.<br /><br />Cool, Would love to see what you have planned.Channel Mhttp://www.witchgirlsadventures.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913319789564397699.post-80546550022705232832009-08-07T07:40:56.311-05:002009-08-07T07:40:56.311-05:00Really!? That is cool.
I looked for her in the b...Really!? That is cool.<br /><br />I looked for her in the book, but missed her. Is she there and I just misser her or is she in your notes and has not appeared yet?<br /><br />Either way, I have some stats and an idea for a game with her. <br /><br />Thanks!Timothy S. Brannanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02923526503305233715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913319789564397699.post-29814794638306924582009-08-06T21:19:46.143-05:002009-08-06T21:19:46.143-05:00You do realize she's already in the Witch Girl...You do realize she's already in the Witch Girls World lolChannel Mhttp://www.witchgirlsadventures.comnoreply@blogger.com